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Post by IMSkint on Nov 7, 2007 13:09:18 GMT
I was on the webpage and I noticed the price for Ayr membership. How is it so dear?
What does the price include and what coaching is available. With the exception of Irvine, it seems quite expensive.
Thanks.
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Post by Kevan on Nov 7, 2007 14:45:48 GMT
I have to admit not knowing about other clubs fees before i start but i wasn't under the impression that Ayr was much more expensive. Could anybody enlighten me as to Killie, troon, irvine, girvan prices? You get coaching, unless you are a Senior male road runner and then you get Adam aka THE coach. I think you get half of the first appointment cost for a physio reimbursed. You get a discount on club tracksuit. You get your entrance paid for team events e.g. the national relays, i think. Technically speaking you have to be a member of seaforth to use dam park on a tuesday and thursday and you pay a reduced rate on these nights, compared to individual costs. You also have the privilege of wearing the seaforth vest, which you have to buy separately .
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Post by IMSkint on Nov 7, 2007 15:43:49 GMT
Girvan - £20 Troon - £25 Kilmarnock - £25 Irvine - £60 (Includes Rugby Club Membership) Ayr - £32
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Post by norma on Nov 7, 2007 20:13:22 GMT
Technically speaking you have to be a member of seaforth to use dam park on a tuesday and thursday and you pay a reduced rate on these nights, compared to individual costs. Err, not true and I think maybe not true. Anyone can train at Dam Park on a Tuesday or Thursday, member of Ayr Seaforth or not. The next one I am hazy about as I start training before 7pm, so I pay the track direct. How much is it on a Tuesday / Thursday? As for annual memberships, don't you think that athletics clubs are actually very cheap? Look at the membership costs for many other sports and sometimes there is a coaching fee on top!
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Post by Kevan on Nov 8, 2007 9:13:13 GMT
You can train anytime at dam park as long as it isnt booked by somebody else, i think. Seaforth books it on a tuesday and thursday night. I am not sure whether that means anybody can train when seaforth has it booked, but it wouldnt make sense to me to have booking scheme if anybody could use it anytime . You pay seaforth £1 for kids £1.50 for adults to use dam park on a tuesday and thursday the council charge you £1.10 for kids £1.60 for adults. Thay would be a 20p saving a week, assuming you train 50 weeks a year that would be a saving of ten pounds annually ;D There are advantges of training at a proper track e.g. hurdling facilities, long jump, triple jump, high jump all the throwing events. All these are provided as part of the use of dam park. I dont know but i dont think any other clubs can boast of that. It will be interesting to see what the cost will be for the new Irvine/ north ayrshire club that use the new track in ardrossan or saltcoats. At the AGM we discussed the prices of other sports clubs and while I am not aware of the prices specifically, seaforth and athletics clubs in general were regarded as pretty cheap.
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Post by IMSkint on Nov 8, 2007 12:48:51 GMT
Thanks for your responses Norma and Kevan,
I will be moving to Symington before Christmas and I'm looking for a club that can help me improve my running. My PB's are for 10K 35 min, Half marathon 1:19 and Marathon 2:55.
I am concerned only with running. At present I do one Track session a week, 1 Interval/Hill/Other session and one Cross Country/Trail/Grass session. Sunday is a organised Sunday run and other runs are done by myself. However I am willing to do extra sessions if available.
According to the map I will be between Ayr, Troon, Kilmarnock and Irvine so I'm interested what they can offer for their money. Although Girvan is further away, I would be interested too in their sessions as I read on a previous post that Steve Wylie organises some of the sessions.
Thanks.
PS. At £1.50 for each session + £32 membership = £+110 p/a for 1 track session a week. Does other clubs include coaching also in price?
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Post by Kevan on Nov 8, 2007 14:00:18 GMT
As much as it pains me to say it, Irvine and Killie would probably be better clubs for you I think they probably have more runners at your standard and i know that killie do training sessions on weekends etc., which ayr is sadly lacking. Maybe some of the lurkers from other clubs could tell you about their training sessions? ColinM (Irvine), SBA(Girvan), Boabee or TT Tim(Troon), killeboy or CD (Killie) ?
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Post by boabee on Nov 8, 2007 16:08:11 GMT
howdy imskint, from a Troon Perspective Kev is probably right that Irvine and Killie are the better bets.
the quality sessions we have tend to be a bit lax as in so far as mile reps tend to be no set recovery periods, hill reps tend to be short with long recoveries.
the one beneficial high tempo session we have is the monthly 5k time trial which is the one personally i don,t like to miss.
i,ve been to a couple of killie sessions under Jim Young and as an outsider they are above all well structured and if you read their web page planned in advance.
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Post by norma on Nov 8, 2007 19:27:07 GMT
Ayr don't have an exclusive booking of the track on Tuesdays and Thursdays. They have something which might be called a "group booking", I may have the name wrong. I believe Ayr pay a price to the council and this is independant of the number of people that train at it. So if lots of people turn up, the club makes a profit, but if there is hardly anyone, then the club makes a loss that night.
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Post by Kevan on Nov 8, 2007 20:47:42 GMT
You are correct norma, i am eating my humble pie as we speak. You got it right, it is called a group booking and it doesnt give them exclusive use .
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Post by IMSkint on Nov 8, 2007 22:13:23 GMT
Thank you Kevan and Boabee, but I don't think I'm much further forward. I've been told that I shouldn't join Ayr Seaforth and Troon Tortoises but i've had no sales pitch from Kilmarnock Harriers, Irvine AC or Girvan AAC.
Final question. What's happening with your endurance sessions. In Glasgow we were having them once a month and they helped the standard of running. However yours seems to have died away. Is there any reason for it?
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Post by norma on Nov 8, 2007 22:25:05 GMT
That's alright Kevan, I used to think the same thing about the booking and eye non-members in a suspicious manner. For some reason I thought that you paid 10p more on training nights. I'm glad to see it's 10p less.
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Post by KillieBoy on Nov 8, 2007 23:00:17 GMT
MR Skint-no sales pitch coming from me about Killie. I would say that all the Ayrshire clubs have something to offer and you will find all the clubs friendly and welcoming. Which one best suits your needs is the question you need to answer.Probably best to give them all a try and then decide in my opinion.
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Post by ConnellD on Nov 8, 2007 23:33:03 GMT
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Post by killiescott on Nov 8, 2007 23:36:11 GMT
Hi IM Skint,
Like Killieboy I'm not going to start trying to sell Killie or any other club to you. As he says though you'll find you'd be made welcome at any club you decide on and I'm sure most if not all clubs are like us in that you can go along for a month or so before being pestered to join. You'll also find at any of these clubs people who are of the same standard as yourself ( decent standard by the way ).
Good luck,
Scott.
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